It's a common saying that "A nose heavy plane flies poorly, a tail heavy plane flies once", but why does moving the centre of gravity backwards or forwards change the stability?

  • $\begingroup$ This is a proper aviation question for aviation.SE (which has been discussed there many times). Things are not very intuitive, such that even pilots often have incorrect understanding of it. $\endgroup$
    – Zeus
    Commented May 14, 2020 at 9:23
  • $\begingroup$ Agreed. Somewhere we've taken the decision to allow a certain amount of redundancy here. I would have preferred we more aggressively close questions which are not uniquely related to drones, but by popular vote the community prefers otherwise. Feel free to jump into Drones.Meta.SE and make your voice heard. $\endgroup$ Commented May 14, 2020 at 15:01

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Aft CG means stalls are unrecoverable!

Why is CG relevant?

The plane's elevator is the control surface for pitch angle. The elevator is its own proper wing, and as such only has a certain amount of force it can develop before it stalls. Once it stalls, then pitch control is lost. Not a happy day.

The force that the elevator must develop is the lever arm required to balance the torque stemming from the distance between the airframes center of gravity (CG) and the wing's aerodynamic center.

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Think about it as a see-saw with an elephant sitting close to the center, being balanced by a mouse 100x farther out.

The upshot is that if the CG is aft of the aerodynamic center, then the plane's nose naturally wants to rotate up, and the elevator has to push the tail up to counterbalance.

And if the CG is fore of the aerodynamic center, then the plane's nose naturally wants to rotate down, and the elevator has to push the tail down to counterbalance.

Aft CG

Aft CG is a huge no-no. It all comes down to stall recovery. If the CG is behind the aerodynamic center, then if the plane stalls the nose will simply not come down. The upshot is that you can never regain airspeed and you will enter into what's called a deep stall or leaf stall.

One common reason for cargo aircraft crashes is improperly secured loads which shift backwards immediately after rotation on takeoff. This moves the CG aft, and the plane can no longer keep its nose down and very quickly stalls unrecoverably. There is a famous video a decade years back of a US military cargo jet which had its cargo load shift back on takeoff while departing a Middle East airbase. All aboard died, and I won't post the link out of sensitivity.

Excessive forward CG

If it's too far forward then your elevator will have to produce a ton of downward force to keep the nose up. This is draggy and inefficient. But it's also (within the limits of reason) survivable.

So where to put the CG?

As far back as you safely can! Competition glider pilots move the CG to the very limits of safety because they want to stop the elevator from producing downward thrust which costs precious meters of altitude.

Jetliners want an aft CG because it saves fuel. But don't panic, they have strict limits on how far back they can move it. Because in equal parts no pilot wants to die and no amount of saved jet fuel ever covers the cost of a crashed plane.

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    $\begingroup$ +1, but wording nitpick: the "upshot" of something is a positive - it's not clear to me how "that you can never regain airspeed and you will enter into what's called a deep stall or leaf stall" is an upshot - sounds more like a "downside". (Unless you really do mean that it is somehow a good thing, but in that case I think that warrants more explanation of why it's a good thing.) $\endgroup$
    – mtraceur
    Commented May 11, 2020 at 22:11
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    $\begingroup$ That is not the connotation of "upshot" I am familiar with. Merriam-Webster doesn't suggest any synonyms which have a positive-leaning connotation: merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upshot. $\endgroup$ Commented May 11, 2020 at 23:06
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    $\begingroup$ Huh. I guess I just mislearned it from context then, because I don't think I've ever seen it used with a non-positive connotation before. This does suggest that it's perhaps more liable to misinterpretation than you might realize, but I take back my nitpick - your usage seems correct! $\endgroup$
    – mtraceur
    Commented May 12, 2020 at 4:20
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    $\begingroup$ Of course there is an english.stackexchange question about this :) $\endgroup$
    – ROIMaison
    Commented May 12, 2020 at 9:51
  • $\begingroup$ This is generally incorrect. CP by itself has very little to do with stability; it is the dynamics of its movement that matters, leading to the concept of Aerodynamic Centre (or Neutral Point). Stall, even though dangerous, is not the determining factor either: you can make an airplane with enormous elevator which will provide enough authority even with a very rear CG (preventing necessity of stall), yet it may still be unstable. By definition, instability is the tendency to depart from equilibrium (and nothing more), and it doesn't prohibit controlled flying. $\endgroup$
    – Zeus
    Commented May 14, 2020 at 9:32

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